a great many times. I went to the President,
once, with the Secretary of the Interior,
and we discussed that; the only reason given
was fear that the Utes would spend the funds on arms.
-- Q. You have said you were opposed to the instructions
given the 1878 Commission?
-- A. Well, the plan was to have the Utes removed
to Indian Territory. I opposed that.
I did not think any Indians should go there,
but that each community should keep its own
Indians and take care of them. We drove them
to the Pacifi c, and they were on their way
back, pushed here and there; and by and by
no matter how many we put in the Territory
someone would want them out of there also,
white people would want that land, or the railroads,
and the Indians would be compelled once more
to fi nd some other resting place. I thought
with all the valuable farming land
in Colorado, the Utes, who owned that land,
should be left there, and be protected there.
He was contemplative,
the historian Sprague remarks,
as well as tough and cunning.
Had lived the daily life
of both Indian and white.
Knew that the hate and delusion
which each saw in the other
were mainly the contraptions